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      <image:caption>Jack Schneider is a scholar, teacher, writer, and activist. In his day job, he is the Dwight W. Allen Distinguished Professor at the University of Massachusetts Amherst, where he leads the Beyond Test Scores Project. His academic research broadly examines how educators, policymakers, and the public develop particular views about what is true, what is effective, and what is important in education, and he is particularly interested in how those views can diverge from ground-level reality inside schools and communities. Much of his work, for instance, looks at how student learning and school quality are quantified, and details the intended and unintended consequences of such efforts. Jack also writes frequently for the public in outlets like the New York Times, the Nation, and the Atlantic, often making the case that educational reform is more complex than many of its champions would have us imagine. In his work with Jennifer—on the podcast and on the page—he has established a reputation as a defender of public education's core principles, even as he has been an outspoken critic of racial and economic injustice. As a result, he tends to be unpopular with those who blame schools for inequality, and he is generally loathed by free market zealots. Follow Jack on Twitter.</image:caption>
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